PNotes Portable Development Test 7

Thank you for the paf wrapper; I've been waiting for this.

It appears to have installed fine (all my old notes/settings are as they should be). I can't tell if anything is being left behind, but PNotes does seem to be functioning properly.

Great work; thanks again!

Everything looks very nice
And notes do preserve their position - just checked.

Thank you, Oliver!

updating from Dev test1 deletes all previous notes

You don't need 'testers needed' in forum titles anymore. It's in Beta Testing, so it's assumed. The only time to use it is when there's an urgent need in a short timeframe (like the InfraRecorder fix last week to replace the version that was pulled).

Hey Oliver, you did awesome on this one, great job updating the launcher and all.

There's just a few minor things:

• You actually have 3.5.0.106 in this package if I'm correct, so update that throughout the various files.
• Uncomment the line in the installer that creates $INSTDIR\Data, it's needed.
• Remove the version number from the Other\Source\Readme.txt.
• In that readme, remove the space from the website URL.
• The launcher version is globally around somewhere like 1.5.5.0, so update that in the source.
• Add the WaitForPNotes= line to the AppNamePortable.ini.
• Generalize the help file a litte, because I doubt you'll have custom support pages, so copy the support topics from something like TaskCoach, PDFTK Builder, etc Portable help files.
• UPX the PNotes executable if it still runs fine. The scripts and such are on Ryan wiki: http://cubegames.net/development/compression

That's all, you did really well with this, I hope it gets released. May I suggest updating the post title to include a version number, and using the template stickied at the top of the beta testing forum.

Good work!

Wrapper... shiny...

either in a new note or trying to show my old ones, it only shows an always-on-top black square in the middle of my screen with the mouse in clock icon when is on it... in fact, I have it now whole I type this...

Windows Vista Home Premium AMD64 x2

Hey Oliver first of all: great App, congratulations - it runs fine here,...
I've recognized that english is still the first and only language, so I'm about to translate the english.lng language file to german now.
Before i start i have a question: at the beginning of the file in the language section there is the id=0x809

[language]
name=English
id=0x809

to which id i must change it for the german language? the number 809 reminds me to the Codepage ids from DOS there it is 850 or 851 for german - but i'm not sure if i'm right with this.
When i'm ready with the translation i can post it here, if you want,...

It's the first time I checked out P-Notes...

To the developer:

Some things I wonder about: the header shows the date of a note. I almost wanted to edit the title and use the title and or date as save name. Now on save notes it asks me for titles of the notes. I hope in the future it gets support for caption with title which is editable. (Or just use date/time as name?)

The 'edit' icon has no use as the menu bas shows up whenever I click on the note.

The close icon is not the perfect way to delete the note. To me it feels like the X should just close the note, not delete it, and the maximize icon should not be used to hide the note. The right click of the note is sufficient for choosing to delete it. Having the delete not as the X icon but just closes/hides the note is more conform the most windows work.

Less important: I also feel the caption and edit right click should be synced so the caption does not have to be clicked specific. (It can be quite small)

It would be nice to right click a note to add an alert feature to be accessed for that note to pop up or something

Nice tool to launch when Portable menu launcher. I might start using it when it comes out of beta. (Although the number of apps started alongside the menu takes alot of space in the system tray (And also alot memory used? idk)

Thanks for the app.

PS. does the notes remember changes to the content without selecting 'save'? If not, i think I would like them to

Well, well, well!
That's what I call to have an intensive working day!
I can't follow the thread on my work place, but now I'm home - give me a couple of minutes to sort it out.

First off - languages and skins.
There are no objections to include as much as possible in package. I just don't know how other apps are built. I saw both apps which had all possible languages include, and those with english UI only and required to download additional languages. And skins as well. In the first version of PNotes I included all available languages and skins, but then changed my mind and became more minimalist - not all translations come in time with new release. Sometimes it may take even more than month - unfortunately it doesn't depends on me, but on translators. I pester them, but... And who can decide, of course, which language is "more common"? And what about newly added translations?
In principle I have nothing against adding all available languages to package if it will be for the programm good, considering each of them is only 10-12 Kb
Skins in contrast to language file are much more "heavy",40-60 Kb, so it can increase the package size. Again, if it will for programm good I see no reason not to add them.
BTW, languge ID is required for correct work of "Languages" menu when there are more than one language, so it's very important and I specially ask all translators on my site add accurate ID. I even have put there file with all available IDs in order to be sure - http://pnotes.sourceforge.net/languages-ids.txt.
Well, this was part one
P.S.
Oliver, PortableApps skin is a great idea!
May be somebody more gifted than me could do it?

1) In the first versions the note's creation date/time was used as default name for saving. But then many users asked me (and I agree with them) to make it "Word-like", i.e. get the number of initial characters as prompt for very first save. Again, you may always change it, and you may alway use "Save As" to change the note's name and. as result, it's caption.
2) The "edit" icon I try to use only as indication that this note hase been changed, but not saved yet. Once you save the note it (icon) should disappear. The "clock" icon appears when note is scheduled.
3) I agree that look of "close" and "hide" buttons is far, far to be perfect! Making skins in general takes me much more time than coding and I'm not an artist
4) To sync right-clicks of edit area and other area? Yes, higly probable.
5)

It would be nice to right click a note to add an alert feature to be accessed for that note to pop up or something

Sorry, I just didn't uderstand. The alert feature DO accessible via right click and choosing "Adjust". Do I miss something?
6) If you choose "Autosave" option all notes will be automatically saved in specified interval.

Thank you - I need suggestions and comments very much, because it's difficult to see some things from within the project.

Regards

As an author of PNotes, do I have a right to add a language for pre-installed group?
If so, please don't forget Russian.lng

I'd suggest including all languages and maybe 3 skins. If someone wants to do a PA skin and the author is cool with us including it, it's fine by me. I'd like to have approval on the look for the release, though, if that's ok.

As for UPX, what settings were you using?

And as for official release, I think we should go on this one this week. Is there a high res logo somewhere?