[Outdated] CAFE Mod Beta 5b Development Test 1 (to be renamed eXpresso)

OK! We're getting somewhere

If you're looking for a more permanent name than 'CAFE Mod' please consider CAFE Portable. (Just not pick a random new name...)

I think this tool is useful and I myself start it as I start the Portable menu.

It still doesn't mention how to open using an alternate app, or what the other buttons do. (Double Click settings, type and run, ect)

You might want to remove the CAFEMod.pafdata file.
Also, if you cancel a file association, you still get the balloon pop-up saying that a new association has been added.

I found some thing during translating, I just don't know wich of these issues have been mentioned already. I don't really have the drive to read through the entire thread since I'm awake for no more than half an hour or so, hehe.

"restart=" under [tray] is not being modified by the .lng
"extexists=" under [shared] is not being modified by the .lng, also, the title of this dialog does not appear in the .lng at all
in the 'extgui' when you type an extension and press enter to confirm, nothing happens. I suggest you try associating the return to 'btnassoc'.
if the associated application is not found, and you decide to update the extension, the extension of wich the program was not found should be highlighted/selected upon opening the window
if you want to add an extension-association without specifying an application, it gives the error, but also still gives the confirmation pop-up balloon saying it worked
the validate and cancel buttons in [dblclickgui] aren't translated

Sorry for silly question but how do you use the alternate application associated thru CAFE?

Bugs:
-When I remove managed window, CAFE shows an "eggs" message box.
-Instructions window is set to be always on top. Quite irritating.
-Strange thing, when I double click a chm on my desktop, nothing happens, CAFE catches the double click, but doesn't show a menu.
Other things I don't like:
-When I try to add a class that already exists, CAFE shows a message box and clears the field. In my case, I was adding several classes with similar names - modifying would be faster then typing again. So I suggest - select the text instead, it's never slower for user and sometimes faster.
-The menu that shows up after double clicking on unknown extension really misses a "cancel" button.

Finally, I can't make it work with Total Commander. After double click, no menu appears. I added all TC Windows classes to be monitored, but CAFE misses the double clicks.

Hello, my name is Lahire Biette aka Tuxmouraille.
I am one the original devs of C.A.F.E. And now the only one active.
You can get the latest version of it here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/nomadsofts/C.A.F.E./.
I am developping other utilities, like a trash, a linker and other more ones.
I always need help.

Now with the latest realese you have: file association, context menu and hot keys.
All without changing something in the Windows registry.

Now I need some help to make configuration GUI.

I'd just like to say that we started using this at work a while ago and a lot of employees complained about the icon and name.
I saw the new name and recompiled with the new name and an icon which I made myself.
I'd just like to show it just in case someone is interested.
Preview (Originally made to show the other people here. Not very pretty since I didn't have much time.)

And yeah, there are 2 16x16 icons (With different tray icons). We ended up using the miniature version of the bigger ones.

For the design, I basically used the same style as the Xenon icon.

Hi

Just wondering when the name and/or icon of this will be changed in the app itself?

I've prepared some icon files.

Regular:
Main application icon
Icon for 'Running' state
Icon for 'paused' state

With simple 16x16 icon (Just a sheet of paper with xE on it):
Main application icon
Icon for 'Running' state
Icon for 'paused' state

I release these for free usage within the eXpresso project. The icons may not be used outside the project without my permission.

For theming support, I believe that you could add
; get theme and change tray icon to theme
Iniread, icotheme, %inifile%, configuration, icontheme, default
Menu, tray, Icon, \themes\%icotheme%\running.ico,, 1
right above "; get localization" in cafe.ahk and replace the pause sub with:
Ctrl & LWin:: ;************change this hotkey****************
Pause:
if A_IsSuspended = 1
Menu, tray, Icon, \themes\%icotheme%\running.ico,, 1
else
Menu, tray, Icon, \themes\%icotheme%\paused.ico,, 1
Suspend
Menu, tray, ToggleCheck, %pause%`t(Ctrl+Win)
return

I'm not sure if the above really works, but it should. I just got the idea and I can't run or compile scripts right now (Hardware upgrades). I'll come back later with some UI code.

Hey Brian - Started using this again and gave it a more fair go and realised this app is Sweet. Its like the missing link between PortablApps and the host pc. Makes PortableApps a whole lot more convenient and is pretty simple to use as well.

I have a feature suggestion:

Association Profiles - Say with images, you could set your main and and alt. apps you want to run say jpg's thru and save the profile as Image Files. Then when you got to open png's, tiff's, bmp's etc, rather than setting the associations again and again for each, you could simply select the Image Files profile. I hope you find the idea interesting.

Peter, our excellent designer guy has made some UI and feature mockups and I'm trying to write the code for it.
I'm also improving the built in run dialog to make it look more like the windows one (I actually had some unfinished code for an exact copy of the windows run dialog with a checkbox for showing advanced options such as running as another user, or in a maximized/minimized/hidden window).

I'll upload the source files somewhere at the end of the week.

First off, love the app

1) double clicking the title of a folder currently pulls up CAFE instead of maximizing / restoring the window.

2) Alt+Enter and Alt+double-click already have special meaning in windows (File / Folder Properties) is there any way to get those back without pausing / killing CAFE?

Edit: another effect of #2: if you select 2+ folders and hit alt+enter, CAFE tries to associate the 'files' (typ files w/ no extension) with something.

I'm also occasionally getting multi-line entries. I've not been able to duplicate and _see_ what caused it, but this 'line' was in the file twice and could not be deleted from extension manager:
com
=

Can switches be used with file associations?? I want to run JavaPortablizer which requires the -jar switch to run a JAR file. I have tried:

"..\..\..\JavaPortablizer\bin\javaw.exe" -jar
"..\..\..\JavaPortablizer\bin\javaw.exe" "-jar"
..\..\..\JavaPortablizer\bin\javaw.exe -jar

None of which work.

Thanks

mike

Is there anyway to use a wildcard in the ahk_class AFX for the managed window in CAFE Mod? I have an application that has a different value each time I open it. Right now it is

00400000:b:00010011:00000006:00450653

The change seems to only happen for the last 8 characters (00450653 in this example.

Thanks. Mark.

I'm writing to ask (with fingers crossed) is this still in development? Its a great app, as said previously its like the missing link between PortableApps.com and the host pc as you can associate your files. You could use that missing link thing as a tag line maybe:-p

Anyway hope yous are still working on this. Its great and once completed I am sure will become an essential part of PortableApps.com.

The link to the app is broken

Hi,

First, thanks for your development

I've installed this mod (I used CAFE before) and there is a problem with it. In fact, I use xplorer2 lite instead of the windows explorer and when I "Shift + Ctrl + Left Click" nothing happens (no pop up appears)... I've tested with windows explorer and it runs perfectly.

Could you help me ?

Thanks

I have just two issues with CAFE right now:

1. Double-clicking the title bar of an Explorer window (to maximize/restore it) while a file is selected opens the file.

2. Double-clicking anything in an Explorer window other than a file (title bar, Control Panel icon, empty space, etc.) locks up the mouse for a split second. Not major, but still annoying.

Other than that, it works great!

I readed quickly the posts.
I am ok to combines our forces.
I fixed the directory problem.
I am working on java applications, but not perfect.
But now I have no many times to work on, and I have been definitly on Ubuntu OS.

To hack easily an AHK compiled app you can use my own version of Compil_AHK, here:
http://download.tuxfamily.org/nomadsofts/Compile_AHK_Portable/.

@Mr Magical said:"One feature we completed is the ability to pass a file name as a parameter, automatically open it in the associated portable application and then exit without showing anything."
There is also one, it is sucre, on : http://clef.usb.googlepages.com/sucre.
But sorry the web site is only in french, and not mine.

@Mr Magical said:"We also have ideas for a window where files can be dropped to open them and automatic creation of a 'Send to' item."
You can do that with the latest original version of cafe, with its contect menu fonction.

Association's profiles is a good idea.

@Brian All said:"Wow, I can't believe I didn't notice this comment until now, but I answered the question below anyways.
However, I like your idea for the tagline "The Missing Link". I think I'll use it if you don't mind."
I worked on portable link with relative paths, but not finish.

Goog night.

I am having problems setting up to work with different file managers. The 7zip file manager has ahk_class FM but it still doesn't detect when I saved it in my monitored window. Another file manager I tried is snowbird (http://www.geocities.com/casablanca2000in/msp/snowbird.html) which seems to have a random set of ahk_class such as ahk_class Afx:00400000:0:00010011:01900010:015D03BD which doesn't work with this program either. Just wondering if there is anyway to make theses two file managers compatible.

Are possible names for the app still being accepted? I mean I know eXpresso has been currently chosen but seeing as it hasn't been implemented yet so thought I would make another suggestion. Now this sorta goes hand in hand with the "missing link" tag line idea. Basically something like Sapien, Cro Magnon or something where its a monkey/human name and the icon could be a matching monkey, eg a chimp smiling, maybe a Donkey Kong remake or maybe a baboon or something.

Obviously this idea is still somewhat embryonic but I think it would be a pretty good branding once its polished a bit. I mean eXpresso is good and all but it stays too close to the Cafe theme. As there are a number of functions planned to be added I Cafe MOD needs to move away from it's Cafe Heritage and maybe something thst has more emphasis on the whole linking between portableapps and pc aka the missing link aka a chimp or somthing.

Hope this isn't as hard to understand as it now seems to me re-reading it

I wouldnt mind helping develop this app but idk about taking it over. I mean I think I could help fix some bugs and maybe help add in new features but BrianAll would have to let me know what he plans on doing with this and then I could slowly help develop this app. Since summer is just around the corner im sure by then a lot of my apps I have right now in development will be near completed so ill probably be able to work on this. I really do find this useful in a lot of ways.

The only problem was that even after setting an association it still did nothing.

John Z. Doe

is this the most recent one?

Just so it's in the right place, send me the source when you've finished your edits, and I'll try to integrate my AHK mouse hook. Maybe it can iron out some dbl click problems some people are having.